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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
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17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Westham67 1:11 Wed May 25
Re: Oh goody, a rail strike....... Thank you RMT you self serving bar stewards

Withamexile 12:47 Wed May 25

Obviously, you work for a train operator, not NR

To be honest it's not an easy job with all the things that can go wrong. I know from working on the track how unaware of the dangers most people are messing around on platforms or kids getting on the track

Vexed 1:06 Wed May 25
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After reading what witham has said, these train folk seem to think they are the only people affected by the current climate and think it's ok to make everyone elses lot worse because they think they're better than you. Even though they are terrible failing companies that charge the earth, make a fortune and are not delivering the service people pay for. Zero sympathy with these cunts. When I used to have to slum it on the trains these cunts made a long week a whole lot longer. Fuck em.

Pop Robson 1:02 Wed May 25
Re: Oh goody, a rail strike....... Thank you RMT you self serving bar stewards
Family member had a job offer from Greater Anglia for Automatic gate operator, I guess a ticket person in the old days

£17k

Shift work

5am starts so free travel no use will need to drive

Latest finish after the last train

Elizabeth/Crossrail for Platform Staff £23k again shifts

Nice to see a union that still gets stuck in

Eerie Descent 12:57 Wed May 25
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Fair play Witham, it's good to hear from the horse's mouth. I hope you get what you're after.

Withamexile 12:47 Wed May 25
Re: Oh goody, a rail strike....... Thank you RMT you self serving bar stewards
Of course they will say they want 10%. With the rate of inflation a decent rise is needed. But honestly vast majority of my colleagues will be happy with less. We just don’t agree with being shafted at 0%.

I really don’t want to strike and hope it doesn’t come to it. But a strike is probably better for the public than a work to rule which is seen as the lesser of the two options. For years the railway has been run on rest day work and and overtime and thus we’ve run with many vacancies. In fact even in places with no vacancies it only takes one person off sick and rest day working is needed.

Percy Dalton 12:43 Wed May 25
Re: Oh goody, a rail strike....... Thank you RMT you self serving bar stewards
Well said Witham.

AKA ERNIE 12:40 Wed May 25
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Joyo agree

AKA ERNIE 12:38 Wed May 25
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Witham according to the rmt its a 10% payrise they want which is madness at the moment.

joyo 12:38 Wed May 25
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Withamexile your point comes across very well and fair play even if you do fuck me up next month.
You're spot on about the public and greedy bosses.

Withamexile 12:29 Wed May 25
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AKA ERNIE 12:03 Wed May 25

No one I know is demanding massive rises. I feel when your management are receiving bonuses of up to 38k to be told there is nothing for you is insulting to some earning less than half of that a year.

In this cost of living crisis I feel a 3% Payrise is more than fair after a 3 year freeze.

And as I said before this is the second time in over two decades I have been balloted to strike so it’s not like it’s a yearly occurrence.

Withamexile 12:22 Wed May 25
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AKA ERNIE 11:48 Wed May 25

6 weeks? 😂 22 days plus bank holidays. Not terrible but not 6 weeks.

As previously said I do class my wage as decent at 30k. But to class what I for example do as ‘easy’ is a little ignorant. Even just shift work with young children is tough. This week alone my shift start times are 0600, 1300, day off 0530, 1300, and 0800. I’m also rostered to work at least one day of 5 weekends out of 6. Again not moaning just outlying facts.

Then we come to the challenges of the great British public, 99% of which are great and I enjoy our interaction and will and do go above and beyond every day to help them in any way I can.

Unfortunately the other 1% are in no way shape or form ‘easy’. Anything from aggressive drunks to suicidal people are all part of railway life and are a far greater occurrence than you’d imagine.

People who tell us how well paid and easy we have it rarely want to apply for a job which is strange.
I agree The argument about leave if you don’t like it is valid. But I’ve been doing this from school, have made dozens of very close friends and the jobs world is extremely uncertain. It’s not that simple.

Vexed 12:14 Wed May 25
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Its difficult to have too much sympathy with them, they dont really pick their moments very well.

AKA ERNIE 12:03 Wed May 25
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Pony it was mate but its true
Imsick of pricks this demanding massive raises then striking and fucking up the public

White Pony 11:58 Wed May 25
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FMOB, that was like a toddler’s tantrum Ern, son.

AKA ERNIE 11:48 Wed May 25
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If uts such a shit job with shit wages and conditions and cuntvmanagers you could of course just leave rather than whine like a bitch and fuck up everyones travel just because you think you deserve more.
But of course you wont because its a well paid job considering what you do plus being oh so brave for working and doing the job youre paid to do during covid maybe you deserve another 6 weeks holiday

Withamexile 11:02 Wed May 25
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‘Isn’t 16k below minimum wage?‘

It is minimum wage for an absolutely shit job.

And they were told there was no money in the pot by someone who earns near 300k a year and received a 38k bonus this year.

We were also told we should be grateful we weren’t furloughed. Well we were told to go to work during a period of great uncertainty and worry for our and our families health as we were key workers.
The worry of watching scenes on the news from Italian emergency rooms and that This could soon be us was put to the back of our minds and we did our albeit small bit on getting the real key workers to their place of work.

Don’t get me wrong I was happy to come to work and am proud of what we achieved, But it wasn’t a choice, to now be told we were lucky not to be furloughed is disgraceful.

If we didn’t vote for this we are just saying that year after year going forward we will accept getting shafted, the fares have gone up 5/6 times since the last Payrise we had in April 2019.

And since then we have this cost of living crisis that is putting a serious strain on my colleagues and I’s lives. As I’m sure it is on many of the people in here. But why should any of us accept it?

This will be only the second time I have been involved in strike action in over 20 years and I do it with a heavy heart. I’ll probably lose more than I will gain but I(and 89%) of my colleagues believe we need to stand up for something we believe in.

Lastly as I said before, don’t believe the hatchet job that’ll be printed in the papers and demonstrated in the opening post here.

BRANDED 10:52 Wed May 25
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I had a sherman conductor on a train the other day. His clarity of communication was astounding. Well worth a pat on the back.

⚒️ 10:40 Wed May 25
Re: Oh goody, a rail strike....... Thank you RMT you self serving bar stewards
Greedy cunts.

chav_corner 10:38 Wed May 25
Re: Oh goody, a rail strike....... Thank you RMT you self serving bar stewards
Sorry mate but I find some of the salaries quoted hard to believe.When workers go on strike it is a massive decision they have taken since they obviously dont get paid for when they strike.I am sure they have good reasons and that we should maybe look into their reasons for striking before we condemn them.

joe royal 7:50 Wed May 25
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Isn’t 16k below minimum wage?

RBshorty 5:26 Wed May 25
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Lard. Could you be so kind to show me a TOC who pays their drivers £80k+ per.? Even Eurostar don’t pay that amount.

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